[S11E17] Watch Over Me
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\"Watch Over Me\" - Pictured: Evander Holyfield (NCIS Special Agent Sutherland), LL COOL J (Special Agent Sam Hanna) and Barrett Foa (Tech Operator Eric Beale). When an FBI agent is killed while trying to track the location of an undercover agent, NCIS must find the missing agent before the criminals he was investigating do, on NCIS: LOS ANGELES, Sunday, March 8 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Boxing champion Evander Holyfield guest stars as NCIS Special Agent Sutherland, and professional wrestling legend Bill Goldberg returns as DOJ Agent Lance Hamilton. Photo: Sonja Flemming/CBS 2020 CBS Broadcasting, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Everyone's ultimate target, Devin, handled himself well, for someone on his first undercover assignment. He put together that the people assigned to protect him were in bed with his target, and he collected all the necessary evidence.
Welcome to another episode of dateable. A show all about modern dating modern romance. Modern love everything modern in these unprecedented times as we dig into the whys of people's behavior wise of your own behavior. Kovic has i think just Open up a can of worms for a lot of people in terms of like know themselves. I think i've learned a lot about myself. During this time things that i thought i got over like things that i had worked through in the past but everything is sort of like surfacing again which is interesting to me but mental health is one of those those buzzwords that keeps popping up. And it's it's really prevalent right now. Well now that we're entering the second wave right feel like there is even more time to devote to that but i was actually looking at stats and this is kind of crazy. But said that depression since cove it has tripled in the us like people that have kind of gone and seats help for depression. So that's just even people seeking it like. I know a lot of people have been really struggling with the isolation and now that things are shutting down again in california probably other states will start to follow. It's it's crazy. Like i feel like i've just been talking to a lot of people. Recently you know have been dealing with feeling like loneliness feeds into depression and yeah like we're going to go into all the weeds today with our guest tony. That were super excited to have on. But it's almost like depression is like a vicious cycle. I think about liz especially with relationships and you and i talk about our own experiences. Either you know like having bouts of depression of also. Ddh people that are depressed and it's a really hard situation because it's like i think of it like a cycle. It's like the person that is experiencing depression. It's almost like sometimes you feel like a burden for like leaning on people when you're in that stage but then at the same time when people like pull away which is a common cause of depression. The people in the relationship have trouble and it's almost like i think i read somewhere like one of the me. One of the main reasons for depression outside. The pandemic of course is relationships. So like when you're a relationship isn't going according to plan it can really send you into a spiral. So it's like a cycle. I view and sometimes even people that are feeling depressed. Don't wanna get into relationships. They pull away from relationships because of depression south it definitely shows up in relationships for damn sure and it could absolutely terror down the relationship because as we've talked about our experience dating people who are dealing with depression. Is that you as as the partner gets depressed because you feel helpless you feel like you can either for your partner or your partner is choosing not to show up for you which is not the truth. But it's like when you're in that relationship and your emotions are tied to this person. It's really hard to separate the two. So i'm really glad that we're bringing up because we've talked about mental health ending before he'll were specifically talking about depression for this particular episode. Because i think it will be relatable for so many of you out there. Yeah we talk about two in this episode that there's very there's different types of depression like there's more seasonal depression there's more clinical depression that really like you know has to do with just your own genetic makeup but i think covert is like. It's almost like a deuce slew of seasonal depression and yet like i think a lot of it comes down to to how you're managing it and what steps they're taking so it's not to say that like people that are experienced depression or unbeatable by any means. I think all of us have bouts of depression in different ways. It's just how do we like manage it and kind of work to be the best version of ourselves with it. And i really like that in this in this conversation with tony is that we don't. We don't talk about depression and mental health as a way as an illness. Because it's part of who you are. And i think part of it is cultural differences like i taught i bring up sort of growing up in an asian household where you think about depression as you're at fault while you're depressed because you made you got yourself there. That's really the case. A lotta time or editor jerry. It could be imbalanced. So i like that. We don't place the blame. It's more about if you have feelings of depression. how do we navigate. An how do we thrive in that environment. Because it is doable.
We definitely recommend people to listen to the older episode. Because it was. I think actually by the bid are both popular episode or one of our top episodes is called mental health dating with jonathan fan. Tram who has a startup called reflects so we talked a little more like high level. He also did share his own stories and own challenges with anxiety and depression but we did talk like more high level of how it shows up in dating and relationships and of course was pre pandemic. so there's a little bit of a different twist. But i think a lot of that stuff is. This is a good complement to this episode for short. So go back to our back catalogue. If you haven't or just religion again. I might do the same. I think it's always helpful to hear these types of conversations absolutely because it helps you put language what you're feeling sometimes you're just like What is this thank zayed's it's not anger at what is it and hearing other people's experiences has really opened up my leg. My just my vocabulary up at how. I describe my own emotions and mental health. So it's really fantastic to listen to these interviews even if you're kind of newer to the space you're like oh this is the first time m starting to feeling not myself well. This is the perfect way to open up. That conversation with yourself about what is happening in your mind or if you have a partner that's going through this. It's definitely that. I think it was really helpful to hear like i've experienced this with my axe and i've obviously heard his experience. But it was good to hear tony. Who is like totally moved. You know because it's like the emotions of talking about it with a partner is different than just hearing someone else share their story and i think there is a lot to be learned from that and yeah i mean we haven't i was looking back like what episode was it was seasoned seven that we touched down so it's been a while time ago definitely go back and check that out but i think we also do a call up front and we said this in our last episode like if you really are you know in a place that you're feeling like really bad thoughts right now. There is like prevention hotline. So other is one eight hundred two seven three talk which is a twenty four hour crisis center and you can obviously always call nine one one. If it's an emergency so definitely learn from this episode but if you are feeling like this is like a really bad state lake take those extra precautions and for everybody else who may not be experiencing this right now. Reach out to your friends. I think this is the time. Reach out to your family. Reach out to your network I've talked about this before. But around this while i guess a little bit before this month of last year. I lost my College roommate to sucide and she had been battling depression. And i lived with her for almost four years and i never saw any signs of it and i keep like replaying our years together and i'm like how did i not see this and i've had long conversations with her sisters about it and they're like we didn't really see either she just came off so Jovial and just so like supportive all the time i had no idea she was battling these internal demons so to me. I regret not reaching out to her. More especially in moments where i felt like. Oh everything should be fine right. Everything seems like fine. She posed on facebook. She post on instagram. She seems fine. Just never know what someone's going through so just one tax one phone call could save. Someone's life believe it or not hundred percent agree on that. And i think that is the part. That's hard as you think of someone. That's depressed as being like sad and gloomy. And that really isn't i mean they may be experiencing that in private but a lot of times. The external like a lot of comedians have depression in. That's like a very common thing because yeah a lot of people that are super jovial like especially very extroverted. Like sometimes when you're feeling like the need to be around people all the time it is covering some of the inner stop and i think that's why this pandemic has been really challenging for people because that's almost been like stripped from them so it's like facing those demons like head on so i think sometimes it isn't the obvious people and i think also it's not always people that are like single or lonely people can be lonely no matter their relationship status so i think that's also important to remember that just because on facebook. That look